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		<title>Comment on From Map to App by Business Process and IT Systems – A New World Order &#124; Barium Live!</title>
		<link>http://blog.bariumlive.com/2011/09/21/from-map-to-app/#comment-2983</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Business Process and IT Systems – A New World Order &#124; Barium Live!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 08:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] then the two worlds can be brought together in a unique way using Barium Live!. The Barium Live! Map to App functionality provides the process owners the tools to map out the processes that are needed to [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on From Map to App by From Chaos to Compliance &#124; Barium Live!</title>
		<link>http://blog.bariumlive.com/2011/09/21/from-map-to-app/#comment-2913</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[From Chaos to Compliance &#124; Barium Live!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] for managing the business. This is where 21st century BPM concept makes a difference and the rapid Map to App functionality of Barium Live! becomes really important. When the processes are run as applications, [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for managing the business. This is where 21st century BPM concept makes a difference and the rapid Map to App functionality of Barium Live! becomes really important. When the processes are run as applications, [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Business Process Management in the 21st Century by From Chaos to Compliance &#124; Barium Live!</title>
		<link>http://blog.bariumlive.com/2011/09/29/business-process-management-in-the-21st-century/#comment-2912</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[From Chaos to Compliance &#124; Barium Live!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] last blog, Business Process Management in the 21st Century, explained the Business Process Management (BPM) breakthrough that puts business processes at the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] last blog, Business Process Management in the 21st Century, explained the Business Process Management (BPM) breakthrough that puts business processes at the [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on E-Governance includes more than e-Services by Image Processing Design</title>
		<link>http://blog.bariumlive.com/2011/10/17/e-governance-includes-more-than-e-services/#comment-2888</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Image Processing Design]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...that focus needs to shift towards employees so that they, in their turn, can perform their tasks well and obtain customer satisfaction. &quot;

I couldn&#039;t agree more. Isn&#039;t that what business solutions are all about!? Without customer satisfaction, there would be no need for us!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;that focus needs to shift towards employees so that they, in their turn, can perform their tasks well and obtain customer satisfaction. &#8221;</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more. Isn&#8217;t that what business solutions are all about!? Without customer satisfaction, there would be no need for us!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Business Process Management in the 21st Century by Andy Salmon</title>
		<link>http://blog.bariumlive.com/2011/09/29/business-process-management-in-the-21st-century/#comment-2867</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy Salmon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 14:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are absolutely right about the factors involved in creating a high performing process. Barium Live! is a blank platform and it is the content that runs your business.

However Barium Live! provides you with all the tools to make business process development a success. I have been involved in a discussion today where all agreed that engagement with those implementing the process and taking on board their input and feedback was one of the most important factors in a high performing process. A business process owner will be able to listen to his/her team and, using Barium Live!, amend the process map or web form themselves and immediately publish and upgrade the improved process application.

What better way to involve the right people in having the right process and the right information in improving your results and reaching your goals!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are absolutely right about the factors involved in creating a high performing process. Barium Live! is a blank platform and it is the content that runs your business.</p>
<p>However Barium Live! provides you with all the tools to make business process development a success. I have been involved in a discussion today where all agreed that engagement with those implementing the process and taking on board their input and feedback was one of the most important factors in a high performing process. A business process owner will be able to listen to his/her team and, using Barium Live!, amend the process map or web form themselves and immediately publish and upgrade the improved process application.</p>
<p>What better way to involve the right people in having the right process and the right information in improving your results and reaching your goals!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Business Process Management in the 21st Century by Procesje</title>
		<link>http://blog.bariumlive.com/2011/09/29/business-process-management-in-the-21st-century/#comment-2864</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Procesje]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 06:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve seen many vendors telling this story. And of course it looks easy, but is it really BPM? I don&#039;t think so because in managing your organisation by processes it&#039;s also about:

– Having the right (real) processes
– The right information in the processes
– The right people
– The right way of steering to reach your process result and its goals

And there might be more important factors, depending on the process. 

Although a lot of modern process tools create nice applications, they do not automatically create a well performing process.  

But a giant leap forward is that those applications are at least created out of a business focused process map. And it is better than only having a static process map.

Keep the processes alive!
Procesje]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen many vendors telling this story. And of course it looks easy, but is it really BPM? I don&#8217;t think so because in managing your organisation by processes it&#8217;s also about:</p>
<p>– Having the right (real) processes<br />
– The right information in the processes<br />
– The right people<br />
– The right way of steering to reach your process result and its goals</p>
<p>And there might be more important factors, depending on the process. </p>
<p>Although a lot of modern process tools create nice applications, they do not automatically create a well performing process.  </p>
<p>But a giant leap forward is that those applications are at least created out of a business focused process map. And it is better than only having a static process map.</p>
<p>Keep the processes alive!<br />
Procesje</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why do we map processes? by Procesje</title>
		<link>http://blog.bariumlive.com/2011/08/29/why-do-we-map-processes/#comment-2846</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Procesje]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 08:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello Fredrik, 

I think your perception is right, so we agree. If you could read Dutch, you would see the latest post on my website is also about this perception. 

Keep on improving by process! 

Regards,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Fredrik, </p>
<p>I think your perception is right, so we agree. If you could read Dutch, you would see the latest post on my website is also about this perception. </p>
<p>Keep on improving by process! </p>
<p>Regards,</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why do we map processes? by Fredrik Selander</title>
		<link>http://blog.bariumlive.com/2011/08/29/why-do-we-map-processes/#comment-2845</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fredrik Selander]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 08:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your reply Processje!

My topic is based on my perception of the market and not what I actually think, because I absolutely agree with what you just wrote. Too many companies are mixing up “mapping” and “managing” processes. My job would be much easier if the process maturity grew within the market!

The mix up may be due to lack of process-competence and maybe because the process orientation initiative is driven from the wrong hierarchal level within the organization. In Sweden, a Quality Manager is often responsible for the business processes, which of course is rarely ideal. In Sweden they are most likely not responsible for the actual line-of-business, which gives them no incentive at all to drive process improvement work. 

As Frederick Winslow Taylor wrote:
“The first step in gaining control over an Organization is to know and understand the basic processes.”]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your reply Processje!</p>
<p>My topic is based on my perception of the market and not what I actually think, because I absolutely agree with what you just wrote. Too many companies are mixing up “mapping” and “managing” processes. My job would be much easier if the process maturity grew within the market!</p>
<p>The mix up may be due to lack of process-competence and maybe because the process orientation initiative is driven from the wrong hierarchal level within the organization. In Sweden, a Quality Manager is often responsible for the business processes, which of course is rarely ideal. In Sweden they are most likely not responsible for the actual line-of-business, which gives them no incentive at all to drive process improvement work. </p>
<p>As Frederick Winslow Taylor wrote:<br />
“The first step in gaining control over an Organization is to know and understand the basic processes.”</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why do we map processes? by Procesje</title>
		<link>http://blog.bariumlive.com/2011/08/29/why-do-we-map-processes/#comment-2844</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Procesje]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2011 18:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To me, It seems you are mixing up &quot;mapping&quot; and &quot;managing&quot; processes. But I might be wrong because I didn&#039;t understand the English very well.  

Not mapping, but Executing and Managing by (so, not a) process is your final goal if you want to become a process oriented organisation. 

If I want to become more process oriented at first I wouldn&#039;t even think about mapping any process. My first question would be &quot;What processes do we have&quot; and &quot;Do we really need them&quot;. So this is about process discovery and wondering what real process performance means. 

And f there is a process that I need and it&#039;s also performing bad, then a process map might help me to get more insight in why the process doesn&#039;t live up to its expectations. 

Discovery and prioritize first, mapping later. Then you are really Improving by process. 

I&#039;ve seen so many companies get lost in detail and not knowing why they are mapping their processes. For many cases it would have been better to not map a process at all.

In that case mapping becomes a goal instead of a means. Indeed that&#039;s often the case when regulation or ISO comes in. Mapping then becomes &quot;Because we have to&quot;.  In that case I should stop and just buy the ISO certificate on the Black Market ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, It seems you are mixing up &#8220;mapping&#8221; and &#8220;managing&#8221; processes. But I might be wrong because I didn&#8217;t understand the English very well.  </p>
<p>Not mapping, but Executing and Managing by (so, not a) process is your final goal if you want to become a process oriented organisation. </p>
<p>If I want to become more process oriented at first I wouldn&#8217;t even think about mapping any process. My first question would be &#8220;What processes do we have&#8221; and &#8220;Do we really need them&#8221;. So this is about process discovery and wondering what real process performance means. </p>
<p>And f there is a process that I need and it&#8217;s also performing bad, then a process map might help me to get more insight in why the process doesn&#8217;t live up to its expectations. </p>
<p>Discovery and prioritize first, mapping later. Then you are really Improving by process. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen so many companies get lost in detail and not knowing why they are mapping their processes. For many cases it would have been better to not map a process at all.</p>
<p>In that case mapping becomes a goal instead of a means. Indeed that&#8217;s often the case when regulation or ISO comes in. Mapping then becomes &#8220;Because we have to&#8221;.  In that case I should stop and just buy the ISO certificate on the Black Market <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Introducing myself: Barend by Jonathan Franze</title>
		<link>http://blog.bariumlive.com/2011/07/07/introducing-myself-barend/#comment-727</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Franze]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 08:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welcome Barend! Looking forward to some interesting reading.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome Barend! Looking forward to some interesting reading.</p>
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